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		<title>By: Milan Moravec</title>
		<link>http://laprensa-sandiego.org/editorial-and-commentary/how-will-the-university-of-california-survive/comment-page-1/#comment-66480</link>
		<dc:creator>Milan Moravec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 05:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>University of California (UC) tuition, fee increases are an insult. Californians face mortgage defaults, 12% unemployment, pay reductions, loss of unemployment benefits. No layoff or wage reductions for UC Chancellors, Vice Chancellors, Faculty during greatest recession of modern times.
There is no good reason to raise tuition, fees when wage concessions are available. UC wages must reflect California&#039;s ability to pay, not what others are paid. If wages better elsewhere, chancellors, vice chancellors, tenured, non tenured faculty, UCOP apply for the positions. If wages determine commitment to UC Berkeley, leave for better paying position. The sky above the 10 campuses will not fall. 
Pitch in (with deeds not words) for all California Democrats, Republicans UC! 
No furloughs. UCOP 18% reduction salaries &amp; $50 million cut.
Chancellors’ Vice-Chancellors’, 18% cut. Tenured faculty 15% trim.
Non-Tenured, 10% reduction.  Academic Senate, Council remove 100% costs salaries.
It is especially galling to continue to generously compensate chancellors, vice-chancellors, faculty while Californians are making financial sacrifices and faculty, chancellor, vice-chancellor turnover is one of the lowest of public universities.
The message that President Yudof, UC Board of Regent Chair Lansing, UC Berkeley Birgeneau are sending is that they have more concern for generously paid chancellors, faculty. The few at the top need to get a grip on economic reality and fairness. 
The California Legislature needs a Bill to oversee higher education salaries, tuition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>University of California (UC) tuition, fee increases are an insult. Californians face mortgage defaults, 12% unemployment, pay reductions, loss of unemployment benefits. No layoff or wage reductions for UC Chancellors, Vice Chancellors, Faculty during greatest recession of modern times.<br />
There is no good reason to raise tuition, fees when wage concessions are available. UC wages must reflect California&#8217;s ability to pay, not what others are paid. If wages better elsewhere, chancellors, vice chancellors, tenured, non tenured faculty, UCOP apply for the positions. If wages determine commitment to UC Berkeley, leave for better paying position. The sky above the 10 campuses will not fall.<br />
Pitch in (with deeds not words) for all California Democrats, Republicans UC!<br />
No furloughs. UCOP 18% reduction salaries &amp; $50 million cut.<br />
Chancellors’ Vice-Chancellors’, 18% cut. Tenured faculty 15% trim.<br />
Non-Tenured, 10% reduction.  Academic Senate, Council remove 100% costs salaries.<br />
It is especially galling to continue to generously compensate chancellors, vice-chancellors, faculty while Californians are making financial sacrifices and faculty, chancellor, vice-chancellor turnover is one of the lowest of public universities.<br />
The message that President Yudof, UC Board of Regent Chair Lansing, UC Berkeley Birgeneau are sending is that they have more concern for generously paid chancellors, faculty. The few at the top need to get a grip on economic reality and fairness.<br />
The California Legislature needs a Bill to oversee higher education salaries, tuition.</p>
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		<title>By: MIlan Moravec</title>
		<link>http://laprensa-sandiego.org/editorial-and-commentary/how-will-the-university-of-california-survive/comment-page-1/#comment-61173</link>
		<dc:creator>MIlan Moravec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 19:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://strongByJorgeMariscal/strong TheimpactoftheeconomiccrisisontheUniversityofCaliforniahasbeenintheheadlinesoverthelasttwoweeks.  LastSaturday’sUnionTribunearticleontheUCbudgetmeltdowndrewheavilyonaletterthat#comment-61173</guid>
		<description>University of California will survive with wage concessions from chancellors, vice chancellors faculty and UCOP: UC Academic Senate too.  Californians fund UC.  Californians face foreclosure, unemployment, depressed wages, loss of medical, unemployment benefits, higher taxes: UC Board of Regents Regent Lansing, President Yudof demonstrated leadership by curbing wages, benefits. As a Californian, I don&#039;t care what others earn at private, public universities. If wages better elsewhere, chancellors, vice chancellors, tenured, non tenured faculty, UCOP should apply for the positions. If wages commit employees to UC, leave for better paying position. The sky above UC will not fall.   
California suffers from the greatest deficit modern times. UC wages, benefits must reflect California&#039;s ability to pay, not what others paid elsewhere. Campus chancellors, vice chancellors, tenured &amp; non-tenured faculty, UCOP are replaceable by the more talented. 
UC faculty, chancellor vice chancellor concessions:
No furloughs   
18 percent reduction in UCOP salaries &amp; $50 million cut.
18 percent prune of campus chancellors&#039;, vice chancellors&#039; salaries. 
15 percent trim of tenured faculty salaries, increased teaching load
10 percent decrease in non-tenured faculty salaries, as well as increase research, teaching load
100% elimination of all Academic Senate, Academic Council costs, wages.

Rose bushes bloom after pruning.

UC Board of Regents Sherry Lansing, President Yudof can bridge the public trust gap by offering reassurances that UC salaries reflect depressed wages in California. The sky will not fall on UC
 
Californians are reasonable people. Levy no new taxes until an approved balanced budget: let the Governor/Legislature lead - make the tough-minded (not cold hearted) decisions of elected leadership. Afterwards come to public for continuing, specified taxes. 
  
Thank you for advocating for all Californians, University of California</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>University of California will survive with wage concessions from chancellors, vice chancellors faculty and UCOP: UC Academic Senate too.  Californians fund UC.  Californians face foreclosure, unemployment, depressed wages, loss of medical, unemployment benefits, higher taxes: UC Board of Regents Regent Lansing, President Yudof demonstrated leadership by curbing wages, benefits. As a Californian, I don&#8217;t care what others earn at private, public universities. If wages better elsewhere, chancellors, vice chancellors, tenured, non tenured faculty, UCOP should apply for the positions. If wages commit employees to UC, leave for better paying position. The sky above UC will not fall.<br />
California suffers from the greatest deficit modern times. UC wages, benefits must reflect California&#8217;s ability to pay, not what others paid elsewhere. Campus chancellors, vice chancellors, tenured &amp; non-tenured faculty, UCOP are replaceable by the more talented.<br />
UC faculty, chancellor vice chancellor concessions:<br />
No furloughs<br />
18 percent reduction in UCOP salaries &amp; $50 million cut.<br />
18 percent prune of campus chancellors&#8217;, vice chancellors&#8217; salaries.<br />
15 percent trim of tenured faculty salaries, increased teaching load<br />
10 percent decrease in non-tenured faculty salaries, as well as increase research, teaching load<br />
100% elimination of all Academic Senate, Academic Council costs, wages.</p>
<p>Rose bushes bloom after pruning.</p>
<p>UC Board of Regents Sherry Lansing, President Yudof can bridge the public trust gap by offering reassurances that UC salaries reflect depressed wages in California. The sky will not fall on UC</p>
<p>Californians are reasonable people. Levy no new taxes until an approved balanced budget: let the Governor/Legislature lead &#8211; make the tough-minded (not cold hearted) decisions of elected leadership. Afterwards come to public for continuing, specified taxes. </p>
<p>Thank you for advocating for all Californians, University of California</p>
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		<title>By: Transparency</title>
		<link>http://laprensa-sandiego.org/editorial-and-commentary/how-will-the-university-of-california-survive/comment-page-1/#comment-10203</link>
		<dc:creator>Transparency</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 05:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tyranny of loyalty to the employer @ the University of California Berkeley. Public and private organizations are into a phase of creative disassembly where constant reinvention and adjustments are constant. Hundreds of thousands of jobs are being shed by Chevron, NUMI, Wells Fargo Bank, HP, Starbucks etc. and the state, counties and cities. Even solid world class institutions like the University of California Berkeley under the leadership of Chancellor Birgeneau &amp; Provost Breslauer are firing staff, faculty and part-time lecturers. Estimates are that the State of California may jettison 47,000 positions.
Yet many employees, professionals and faculty cling to old assumptions about one of the most critical relationship of all: the implied, unwritten contract between employer and employee.
Until recently, loyalty was the cornerstone of that relationship. Employers promised job security and a steady progress up the hierarchy in return for employees’s fitting in, performing in prescribed ways and sticking around. Longevity was a sign of employeer-employee relations; turnover was a sign of dysfunction. None of these assumptions apply today. Organizations can no longer guarantee employment and lifetime careers, even if they want to.
Organizations that paralyzed themselves with an attachment to “success brings success’ rather than “success brings failure’ are now forced to break the implied contract with employees – a contract nurtured by management that the future can be controlled.
Jettisoned employees are finding that the hard won knowledge, skills and capabilities earned while being loyal are no longer valuable in the employment market place.
What kind of a contract can employers and employees make with each other? The central idea is both simple and powerful: the job or position is a shared situation. Employers and employees face market and financial conditions together, and the longevity of the partnership depends on how well the for-profit or not-for-profit continues to meet the needs of customers and constituencies.  Neither employer nor employee has a future obligation to the other. Organizations train people. Employees develop the kind of security they really need – skills, knowledge and capabilities that enhance future employability.
The partnership can be dissolved without either party considering the other a traitor. Faculty and staff loyalty at Cal is dead – get used to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyranny of loyalty to the employer @ the University of California Berkeley. Public and private organizations are into a phase of creative disassembly where constant reinvention and adjustments are constant. Hundreds of thousands of jobs are being shed by Chevron, NUMI, Wells Fargo Bank, HP, Starbucks etc. and the state, counties and cities. Even solid world class institutions like the University of California Berkeley under the leadership of Chancellor Birgeneau &amp; Provost Breslauer are firing staff, faculty and part-time lecturers. Estimates are that the State of California may jettison 47,000 positions.<br />
Yet many employees, professionals and faculty cling to old assumptions about one of the most critical relationship of all: the implied, unwritten contract between employer and employee.<br />
Until recently, loyalty was the cornerstone of that relationship. Employers promised job security and a steady progress up the hierarchy in return for employees’s fitting in, performing in prescribed ways and sticking around. Longevity was a sign of employeer-employee relations; turnover was a sign of dysfunction. None of these assumptions apply today. Organizations can no longer guarantee employment and lifetime careers, even if they want to.<br />
Organizations that paralyzed themselves with an attachment to “success brings success’ rather than “success brings failure’ are now forced to break the implied contract with employees – a contract nurtured by management that the future can be controlled.<br />
Jettisoned employees are finding that the hard won knowledge, skills and capabilities earned while being loyal are no longer valuable in the employment market place.<br />
What kind of a contract can employers and employees make with each other? The central idea is both simple and powerful: the job or position is a shared situation. Employers and employees face market and financial conditions together, and the longevity of the partnership depends on how well the for-profit or not-for-profit continues to meet the needs of customers and constituencies.  Neither employer nor employee has a future obligation to the other. Organizations train people. Employees develop the kind of security they really need – skills, knowledge and capabilities that enhance future employability.<br />
The partnership can be dissolved without either party considering the other a traitor. Faculty and staff loyalty at Cal is dead – get used to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Transparency</title>
		<link>http://laprensa-sandiego.org/editorial-and-commentary/how-will-the-university-of-california-survive/comment-page-1/#comment-4675</link>
		<dc:creator>Transparency</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 18:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://strongByJorgeMariscal/strong TheimpactoftheeconomiccrisisontheUniversityofCaliforniahasbeenintheheadlinesoverthelasttwoweeks.  LastSaturday’sUnionTribunearticleontheUCbudgetmeltdowndrewheavilyonaletterthat#comment-4675</guid>
		<description>UCB Chancellor Birgeneau Loss of Trust, Credibility
The UCB budget gap has grown to $150 million, and still the Chancellor is spending money that isn&#039;t there on expensive outside consultants.  His reasons range from the need for impartiality to requiring the &quot;innovative thinking, expertise, and new knowledge&quot; the consultants would bring.
 
Does this mean that the faculty and management of a world-class research and teaching institution lack the knowledge, impartiality, innovation, and professionalism to come up with solutions?  Have they been fudging their research for years?  The consultants will glean their recommendations from interviewing faculty and the UCB management that hired them; yet solutions could be found internally if the Chancellor were doing the job HE was hired to do.  Consultant fees would be far better spent on meeting the needs of students.
 
There can be only one conclusion as to why creative solutions have not been forthcoming from the professionals within UCB:  Chancellor Birgeneau has lost credibility and the trust of the faculty as well as of the Academic Senate leadership that represents them. Even if the faculty agrees with the consultants&#039; recommendations - disagreeing might put their jobs in jeopardy - the underlying problem of lost credibility and trust will remain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UCB Chancellor Birgeneau Loss of Trust, Credibility<br />
The UCB budget gap has grown to $150 million, and still the Chancellor is spending money that isn&#8217;t there on expensive outside consultants.  His reasons range from the need for impartiality to requiring the &#8220;innovative thinking, expertise, and new knowledge&#8221; the consultants would bring.</p>
<p>Does this mean that the faculty and management of a world-class research and teaching institution lack the knowledge, impartiality, innovation, and professionalism to come up with solutions?  Have they been fudging their research for years?  The consultants will glean their recommendations from interviewing faculty and the UCB management that hired them; yet solutions could be found internally if the Chancellor were doing the job HE was hired to do.  Consultant fees would be far better spent on meeting the needs of students.</p>
<p>There can be only one conclusion as to why creative solutions have not been forthcoming from the professionals within UCB:  Chancellor Birgeneau has lost credibility and the trust of the faculty as well as of the Academic Senate leadership that represents them. Even if the faculty agrees with the consultants&#8217; recommendations &#8211; disagreeing might put their jobs in jeopardy &#8211; the underlying problem of lost credibility and trust will remain.</p>
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		<title>By: Milan Moravec</title>
		<link>http://laprensa-sandiego.org/editorial-and-commentary/how-will-the-university-of-california-survive/comment-page-1/#comment-2323</link>
		<dc:creator>Milan Moravec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://strongByJorgeMariscal/strong TheimpactoftheeconomiccrisisontheUniversityofCaliforniahasbeenintheheadlinesoverthelasttwoweeks.  LastSaturday’sUnionTribunearticleontheUCbudgetmeltdowndrewheavilyonaletterthat#comment-2323</guid>
		<description>Current Threats to University of California Don’t Come From the Outside - $3 Million Extravagant Spending by UC President Yudof for University of California Berkeley Chancellor Birgeneau to Hire Consultants - When Work Can Be Done Internally &amp; Impartially
During the days of the Great Recession, every dollar in higher education counts. Contact Chairwoman Budget Sub-committee on Education Finance Assemblywoman Carter 916.319.2062 - tell her to stop the $3,000,000 spending by Birgeneau on consultants.  
Do the work internally at no additional costs with UCB Academic Senate Leadership (C. Kutz/F. Doyle), the world – class professional  UCB faculty/ staff, &amp; the UCB Chancellor’s bloated staff (G. Breslauer, N. Brostrom, F. Yeary, P. Hoffman, C. Holmes etc) &amp; President Yudof.
President Yudof’s UCB Chancellor should do the high paid work he is paid for instead of hiring expensive East Coast consults to do the work of his job. ‘World class’ smart executives like Chancellor Birgeneau need to do the hard work analysis, and make the tough-minded difficult, decisions to identify inefficiencies.
 Where do the $3,000,000 consultants get their recommendations? 
From interviewing the UCB senior management that hired them and approves their monthly consultant fees and expense reports. Remember the nationally known auditing firm who said the right things and submitted recommendations that senior management wanted to hear and fooled the public, state, federal agencies?
$3 million impartial consultants never bite the hands (Chancellor Birgeneau/ Chancellor Yeary) that feed them!
Mr. Birgeneau&#039;s accountabilities include &quot;inspiring innovation, leading change.&quot;  Instead of deploying his leadership and setting a good example by doing the work of his Chancellor’s job, Birgeneau outsourced his work to the $3,000,000 consultants.  Doesn&#039;t he engage UC and UC Berkeley people at all levels to examine inefficiencies and recommend $150 million of trims?  Hasn&#039;t he talked to Cornell and the University of North Carolina - which also hired the consultants -- about best practices and recommendations that  eliminate inefficiencies?
No wonder the faculty, staff, students, Senate &amp; Assembly are angry and suspicious. 
In today’s Great Recession three million dollars is a irresponsible price to pay when a knowledgeable ‘world-class’ UCB Chancellor and his bloated staff do not do the work of their jobs.
Pick up the phone and call: save $3 million for students!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Current Threats to University of California Don’t Come From the Outside &#8211; $3 Million Extravagant Spending by UC President Yudof for University of California Berkeley Chancellor Birgeneau to Hire Consultants &#8211; When Work Can Be Done Internally &amp; Impartially<br />
During the days of the Great Recession, every dollar in higher education counts. Contact Chairwoman Budget Sub-committee on Education Finance Assemblywoman Carter 916.319.2062 &#8211; tell her to stop the $3,000,000 spending by Birgeneau on consultants.<br />
Do the work internally at no additional costs with UCB Academic Senate Leadership (C. Kutz/F. Doyle), the world – class professional  UCB faculty/ staff, &amp; the UCB Chancellor’s bloated staff (G. Breslauer, N. Brostrom, F. Yeary, P. Hoffman, C. Holmes etc) &amp; President Yudof.<br />
President Yudof’s UCB Chancellor should do the high paid work he is paid for instead of hiring expensive East Coast consults to do the work of his job. ‘World class’ smart executives like Chancellor Birgeneau need to do the hard work analysis, and make the tough-minded difficult, decisions to identify inefficiencies.<br />
 Where do the $3,000,000 consultants get their recommendations?<br />
From interviewing the UCB senior management that hired them and approves their monthly consultant fees and expense reports. Remember the nationally known auditing firm who said the right things and submitted recommendations that senior management wanted to hear and fooled the public, state, federal agencies?<br />
$3 million impartial consultants never bite the hands (Chancellor Birgeneau/ Chancellor Yeary) that feed them!<br />
Mr. Birgeneau&#8217;s accountabilities include &#8220;inspiring innovation, leading change.&#8221;  Instead of deploying his leadership and setting a good example by doing the work of his Chancellor’s job, Birgeneau outsourced his work to the $3,000,000 consultants.  Doesn&#8217;t he engage UC and UC Berkeley people at all levels to examine inefficiencies and recommend $150 million of trims?  Hasn&#8217;t he talked to Cornell and the University of North Carolina &#8211; which also hired the consultants &#8212; about best practices and recommendations that  eliminate inefficiencies?<br />
No wonder the faculty, staff, students, Senate &amp; Assembly are angry and suspicious.<br />
In today’s Great Recession three million dollars is a irresponsible price to pay when a knowledgeable ‘world-class’ UCB Chancellor and his bloated staff do not do the work of their jobs.<br />
Pick up the phone and call: save $3 million for students!</p>
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		<title>By: Martha K</title>
		<link>http://laprensa-sandiego.org/editorial-and-commentary/how-will-the-university-of-california-survive/comment-page-1/#comment-162</link>
		<dc:creator>Martha K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://strongByJorgeMariscal/strong TheimpactoftheeconomiccrisisontheUniversityofCaliforniahasbeenintheheadlinesoverthelasttwoweeks.  LastSaturday’sUnionTribunearticleontheUCbudgetmeltdowndrewheavilyonaletterthat#comment-162</guid>
		<description>You say lower and middles class families will be the losers, but that&#039;s an optimistic and even elitist view as well.  Increase that assessment to anyone making under $200,000 per year.  Those making between 80k and 200k can&#039;t get aid because UCs do not award merit based aid without economic need.  Paying for college will take half of what we have saved over 15 years and we have another child.  My parents are older and have already had 2 medical crises&#039; that took everything they had.  We will be supporting them soon.  In the end we will sell our home to support our kid&#039;s college and our parents.  Who is rich?  How can California be strong if it neither educates it&#039;s future, nor supplements students able to prove they are college ready?  This is like a farmer who grows crops for a living.  She plants this seed, watches it grow, sees she has a lot of great product ready to be harvested, but because she chose not to buy a harvester, she just waits for the wind to blow product into her barn from her neighbor&#039;s field.  Who in their right mind would do that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You say lower and middles class families will be the losers, but that&#8217;s an optimistic and even elitist view as well.  Increase that assessment to anyone making under $200,000 per year.  Those making between 80k and 200k can&#8217;t get aid because UCs do not award merit based aid without economic need.  Paying for college will take half of what we have saved over 15 years and we have another child.  My parents are older and have already had 2 medical crises&#8217; that took everything they had.  We will be supporting them soon.  In the end we will sell our home to support our kid&#8217;s college and our parents.  Who is rich?  How can California be strong if it neither educates it&#8217;s future, nor supplements students able to prove they are college ready?  This is like a farmer who grows crops for a living.  She plants this seed, watches it grow, sees she has a lot of great product ready to be harvested, but because she chose not to buy a harvester, she just waits for the wind to blow product into her barn from her neighbor&#8217;s field.  Who in their right mind would do that?</p>
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		<title>By: The Rouge Forum &#8211; Update 28 July 2009 &#171; All that is Solid for Glenn Rikowski</title>
		<link>http://laprensa-sandiego.org/editorial-and-commentary/how-will-the-university-of-california-survive/comment-page-1/#comment-106</link>
		<dc:creator>The Rouge Forum &#8211; Update 28 July 2009 &#171; All that is Solid for Glenn Rikowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Will the UC Survive? http://laprensa-sandiego.org/editorial-and-commentary/how-will-the-university-of-california-survive/California Faculty Association&#8217;s Narrow Vote For Furlough/Concessions: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Will the UC Survive? <a href="http://laprensa-sandiego.org/editorial-and-commentary/how-will-the-university-of-california-survive/California" rel="nofollow">http://laprensa-sandiego.org/editorial-and-commentary/how-will-the-university-of-california-survive/California</a> Faculty Association&#8217;s Narrow Vote For Furlough/Concessions: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://laprensa-sandiego.org/editorial-and-commentary/how-will-the-university-of-california-survive/comment-page-1/#comment-59</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 21:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professor -- wasn&#039;t Jimmy Carter trained as an engineer?  And Obama and Clinton are lawyers.  I respect your position -- even if I don&#039;t agree with it all -- but you sort of cherry picked in your critique.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professor &#8212; wasn&#8217;t Jimmy Carter trained as an engineer?  And Obama and Clinton are lawyers.  I respect your position &#8212; even if I don&#8217;t agree with it all &#8212; but you sort of cherry picked in your critique.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Oxman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Oxman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://strongByJorgeMariscal/strong TheimpactoftheeconomiccrisisontheUniversityofCaliforniahasbeenintheheadlinesoverthelasttwoweeks.  LastSaturday’sUnionTribunearticleontheUCbudgetmeltdowndrewheavilyonaletterthat#comment-52</guid>
		<description>This is an excellent piece, of course. PLEASE -- SOMEONE -- CONTACT JORGE MARISCAL ON MY BEHALF and ask him to contact me at either headburg@yahoo.com, tosca.2010@yahoo.com or 831-688-8038 immediately. I have a plan designed to &quot;secure the UC&quot; as per  our mutual interests, giving priority to Prof. Mariscal&#039;s agenda. Blessings in solidarity, Richard Oxman http://oxtogrind.org/archive/350</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an excellent piece, of course. PLEASE &#8212; SOMEONE &#8212; CONTACT JORGE MARISCAL ON MY BEHALF and ask him to contact me at either <a href="mailto:headburg@yahoo.com">headburg@yahoo.com</a>, <a href="mailto:tosca.2010@yahoo.com">tosca.2010@yahoo.com</a> or 831-688-8038 immediately. I have a plan designed to &#8220;secure the UC&#8221; as per  our mutual interests, giving priority to Prof. Mariscal&#8217;s agenda. Blessings in solidarity, Richard Oxman <a href="http://oxtogrind.org/archive/350" rel="nofollow">http://oxtogrind.org/archive/350</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
		<link>http://laprensa-sandiego.org/editorial-and-commentary/how-will-the-university-of-california-survive/comment-page-1/#comment-50</link>
		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Xicano, good digging! So the total underrepresented UCSD Med School graduates can be counted on 2 hands after all, unfortunately. It’s interesting the numbers are almost the same as 2004 except 3 fewer African Americans. On the other (half?) hand these numbers are so small it’s hard to tell the difference between a significant change and normal fluctuation.

Comparing to the breakdown of UCSD undergrads by ethnicity in http://studentresearch.ucsd.edu/sriweb/Profile2008.pdf it looks like underrepresented minorities are in fact a little more underrepresented in the med school than among undergraduates, which would I guess be the ordinarily depressing expectation. Thanks for disabusing me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Xicano, good digging! So the total underrepresented UCSD Med School graduates can be counted on 2 hands after all, unfortunately. It’s interesting the numbers are almost the same as 2004 except 3 fewer African Americans. On the other (half?) hand these numbers are so small it’s hard to tell the difference between a significant change and normal fluctuation.</p>
<p>Comparing to the breakdown of UCSD undergrads by ethnicity in <a href="http://studentresearch.ucsd.edu/sriweb/Profile2008.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://studentresearch.ucsd.edu/sriweb/Profile2008.pdf</a> it looks like underrepresented minorities are in fact a little more underrepresented in the med school than among undergraduates, which would I guess be the ordinarily depressing expectation. Thanks for disabusing me.</p>
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		<title>By: Janet Spear</title>
		<link>http://laprensa-sandiego.org/editorial-and-commentary/how-will-the-university-of-california-survive/comment-page-1/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>Janet Spear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 02:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; Why don’t we reevaluate the “value” of British literature, American studies, the entire English department. Don’t they promote and educate a form of “ethnic studies?”

You are starting to catch on.  These departments, today, teach the same level of rubbish as the other &quot;studies&quot; departments.

I don&#039;t mind if people want to waste their time on this nonsense on their own dime.  I just don&#039;t want to subsidize it with my tax dollars.

Also, I would appreciate if the patronizing sexist attitude was removed from the comments addressed to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; Why don’t we reevaluate the “value” of British literature, American studies, the entire English department. Don’t they promote and educate a form of “ethnic studies?”</p>
<p>You are starting to catch on.  These departments, today, teach the same level of rubbish as the other &#8220;studies&#8221; departments.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mind if people want to waste their time on this nonsense on their own dime.  I just don&#8217;t want to subsidize it with my tax dollars.</p>
<p>Also, I would appreciate if the patronizing sexist attitude was removed from the comments addressed to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Xicano</title>
		<link>http://laprensa-sandiego.org/editorial-and-commentary/how-will-the-university-of-california-survive/comment-page-1/#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator>Xicano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dana:  According to http://www.aamc.org/data/facts/2008/gradschlraceeth08.htm

Out of a total of 126 graduates, UCSD Med School in 2008 graduated 1 African American, 1 Native American, and 7 Mexican Americans.

Sorry about the two and half hands image.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dana:  According to <a href="http://www.aamc.org/data/facts/2008/gradschlraceeth08.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.aamc.org/data/facts/2008/gradschlraceeth08.htm</a></p>
<p>Out of a total of 126 graduates, UCSD Med School in 2008 graduated 1 African American, 1 Native American, and 7 Mexican Americans.</p>
<p>Sorry about the two and half hands image.</p>
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		<title>By: Xicano</title>
		<link>http://laprensa-sandiego.org/editorial-and-commentary/how-will-the-university-of-california-survive/comment-page-1/#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator>Xicano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your support of the arts, history, and philosophy, Janet.  Without these areas of study, your engineers, biologists, and mathematicians will be pencil necked nerds without a shred of knowledge about the past, ethics, culture, and justice.  And if you think shutting down Chicano programs at the UC will save a lot of money, you&#039;re hallucinating.  Whatever they get is chump change.  Oh, and by the way, Chicanos are the Mexican Americans who don&#039;t whine.  When you tell them the study of their history and culture is nonsense, they get right up in your grill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your support of the arts, history, and philosophy, Janet.  Without these areas of study, your engineers, biologists, and mathematicians will be pencil necked nerds without a shred of knowledge about the past, ethics, culture, and justice.  And if you think shutting down Chicano programs at the UC will save a lot of money, you&#8217;re hallucinating.  Whatever they get is chump change.  Oh, and by the way, Chicanos are the Mexican Americans who don&#8217;t whine.  When you tell them the study of their history and culture is nonsense, they get right up in your grill.</p>
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		<title>By: Professor</title>
		<link>http://laprensa-sandiego.org/editorial-and-commentary/how-will-the-university-of-california-survive/comment-page-1/#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>Professor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms. Janet Spear,

I applaud your use of the term &quot;typical&quot; to describe Dr. Mariscal response to the injustices that are being played out in California&#039;s higher education system.  It is &quot;typical&quot; for people of color to speak out and voice criticism to the unfair and often times bigoted practices of government and groups in power.  So, yes, minorities and all others who are experiencing the &quot;dark side&quot; of California&#039;s mismanagement should &quot;typically&quot; speak out as Dr. Mariscal has so eloquently done.

Second, your statement that ethnic studies is &quot;nonsense&quot; is completely unfounded.  Why stop there? Why don&#039;t we reevaluate the &quot;value&quot; of British literature, American studies, the entire English department.  Don&#039;t they promote and educate a form of &quot;ethnic studies?&quot;  Your narrow and dare I say bigoted criticism of ethnic studies is short sighted and ill advised.  

Thirdly, most of these &quot;ethnic studies&quot; departments already function with a limited budget and often list professors as &quot;associates.&quot;  In other words, the elimination of these departments would not only reduce the quality of education at universities but would do little in reducing spending (perhaps a university should reevalute the cost of athletic departments as an alternative).  

Ms. Spear to reduce the quality work and knowledge produced by professors in the humanities as &quot;nonsensical&quot; would negate the value of education and a democracy&#039;s responsibility to provide a quality service to all of its citizens and residents.  It isn&#039;t just engineers and mathmaticians that make the world go round.  Last I checked it wasn&#039;t an engineer or biologist who was elected to the American presidency.  In fact, we haven&#039;t had an engineer or the like in 80 years (Herbert Hoover--Great Depression?  Wait, you would need history to know that and of course you find that field to be &quot;nonsense.&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms. Janet Spear,</p>
<p>I applaud your use of the term &#8220;typical&#8221; to describe Dr. Mariscal response to the injustices that are being played out in California&#8217;s higher education system.  It is &#8220;typical&#8221; for people of color to speak out and voice criticism to the unfair and often times bigoted practices of government and groups in power.  So, yes, minorities and all others who are experiencing the &#8220;dark side&#8221; of California&#8217;s mismanagement should &#8220;typically&#8221; speak out as Dr. Mariscal has so eloquently done.</p>
<p>Second, your statement that ethnic studies is &#8220;nonsense&#8221; is completely unfounded.  Why stop there? Why don&#8217;t we reevaluate the &#8220;value&#8221; of British literature, American studies, the entire English department.  Don&#8217;t they promote and educate a form of &#8220;ethnic studies?&#8221;  Your narrow and dare I say bigoted criticism of ethnic studies is short sighted and ill advised.  </p>
<p>Thirdly, most of these &#8220;ethnic studies&#8221; departments already function with a limited budget and often list professors as &#8220;associates.&#8221;  In other words, the elimination of these departments would not only reduce the quality of education at universities but would do little in reducing spending (perhaps a university should reevalute the cost of athletic departments as an alternative).  </p>
<p>Ms. Spear to reduce the quality work and knowledge produced by professors in the humanities as &#8220;nonsensical&#8221; would negate the value of education and a democracy&#8217;s responsibility to provide a quality service to all of its citizens and residents.  It isn&#8217;t just engineers and mathmaticians that make the world go round.  Last I checked it wasn&#8217;t an engineer or biologist who was elected to the American presidency.  In fact, we haven&#8217;t had an engineer or the like in 80 years (Herbert Hoover&#8211;Great Depression?  Wait, you would need history to know that and of course you find that field to be &#8220;nonsense.&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: Janet Spear</title>
		<link>http://laprensa-sandiego.org/editorial-and-commentary/how-will-the-university-of-california-survive/comment-page-1/#comment-41</link>
		<dc:creator>Janet Spear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 04:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Typical of what you would expect from a professor in a &quot;Chicano-Latino Arts and Humanities Program&quot;

This field is nonsense.  

We need to get Mexican Americans into Engineering, Biology, Mathematics.

The best thing we could do for minorities is to shut down the &quot;studies&quot; departments.  These are filled with academic parasites who divert bright young men and women into nonsensical fields where they spend their time whining instead of contributing.

Don&#039;t let a good crisis go to waste. Shut them down. It would save a lot of money too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typical of what you would expect from a professor in a &#8220;Chicano-Latino Arts and Humanities Program&#8221;</p>
<p>This field is nonsense.  </p>
<p>We need to get Mexican Americans into Engineering, Biology, Mathematics.</p>
<p>The best thing we could do for minorities is to shut down the &#8220;studies&#8221; departments.  These are filled with academic parasites who divert bright young men and women into nonsensical fields where they spend their time whining instead of contributing.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t let a good crisis go to waste. Shut them down. It would save a lot of money too.</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
		<link>http://laprensa-sandiego.org/editorial-and-commentary/how-will-the-university-of-california-survive/comment-page-1/#comment-40</link>
		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 02:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. I&#039;m trying not to picture two and a half hands... :O</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. I&#8217;m trying not to picture two and a half hands&#8230; :O</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
		<link>http://laprensa-sandiego.org/editorial-and-commentary/how-will-the-university-of-california-survive/comment-page-1/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Xicano, interesting figures from 2004. The piece emphasizes that it&#039;s a trend (&quot;working class and minority students will slowly disappear [...] this has already happened at the professional schools&quot;). I wonder if we can find more recent figures and see what kind of change there&#039;s been in the past 5 years. (I did a little searching but haven&#039;t found anything so far.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Xicano, interesting figures from 2004. The piece emphasizes that it&#8217;s a trend (&#8220;working class and minority students will slowly disappear [...] this has already happened at the professional schools&#8221;). I wonder if we can find more recent figures and see what kind of change there&#8217;s been in the past 5 years. (I did a little searching but haven&#8217;t found anything so far.)</p>
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		<title>By: Xicano</title>
		<link>http://laprensa-sandiego.org/editorial-and-commentary/how-will-the-university-of-california-survive/comment-page-1/#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>Xicano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>o.k., not one hand but maybe two and a half:  &quot;Of the 122 students admitted [to the UCSD School of Medicine] in Fall 2004, 7 were Hispanic/Latino; 4 were African American; 4 were multi-racial; and 1 was American Indian.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>o.k., not one hand but maybe two and a half:  &#8220;Of the 122 students admitted [to the UCSD School of Medicine] in Fall 2004, 7 were Hispanic/Latino; 4 were African American; 4 were multi-racial; and 1 was American Indian.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
		<link>http://laprensa-sandiego.org/editorial-and-commentary/how-will-the-university-of-california-survive/comment-page-1/#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I share many of the author&#039;s views, but it might appear hypocritical to accuse the letter in question of being &quot;self-serving&quot; while at the same time the author, director of a Chicano-Latino Arts and Humanities Program, puts forth arguments in support of humanities and Chicano/Latino studies.

Is there a fine line between advocating one&#039;s interests and being self-serving? Perspectives will differ, and we can hardly expect many people to argue against their own interests. I believe everyone involved deserves the presumption their position and arguments are earnest and forthright.

Such quibbles notwithstanding, the piece does interrogate elitism vs. egalitarianism at U.C., an important issue that appears totally neglected by University officials in favor of platitudinous, euphemistic-sounding talk about &quot;excellence.&quot;

Who can argue with excellence? By couching the discussion in these terms, they dodge deeper questions underlying the debate, such as what exactly constitutes an &quot;excellent&quot; public university in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I share many of the author&#8217;s views, but it might appear hypocritical to accuse the letter in question of being &#8220;self-serving&#8221; while at the same time the author, director of a Chicano-Latino Arts and Humanities Program, puts forth arguments in support of humanities and Chicano/Latino studies.</p>
<p>Is there a fine line between advocating one&#8217;s interests and being self-serving? Perspectives will differ, and we can hardly expect many people to argue against their own interests. I believe everyone involved deserves the presumption their position and arguments are earnest and forthright.</p>
<p>Such quibbles notwithstanding, the piece does interrogate elitism vs. egalitarianism at U.C., an important issue that appears totally neglected by University officials in favor of platitudinous, euphemistic-sounding talk about &#8220;excellence.&#8221;</p>
<p>Who can argue with excellence? By couching the discussion in these terms, they dodge deeper questions underlying the debate, such as what exactly constitutes an &#8220;excellent&#8221; public university in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://laprensa-sandiego.org/editorial-and-commentary/how-will-the-university-of-california-survive/comment-page-1/#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The post states, &quot;at the professional schools [...] Blacks and Chicanos can be counted on one hand.&quot; Am I wrong in having the impression this is not true at least of the UCSD Medical School? Medical students seem to be quite a diverse group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The post states, &#8220;at the professional schools [...] Blacks and Chicanos can be counted on one hand.&#8221; Am I wrong in having the impression this is not true at least of the UCSD Medical School? Medical students seem to be quite a diverse group.</p>
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